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- From dog.ee.lbl.gov!tennyson.lbl.gov!twcaps Mon Oct 14 16:45:22 PDT 1991
- Article 25859 of alt.folklore.urban:
- Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
- Path: dog.ee.lbl.gov!tennyson.lbl.gov!twcaps
- >From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
- Subject: Cecil Adams on Copyright Traps in Maps (well, sort of)
- Organization: FAQ U.
- Message-ID: <18434@dog.ee.lbl.gov>
- Keywords: Master, Ilco, abracadabra
- X-Local-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 91 16:27:50 PDT
- Reply-To: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 91 23:27:50 GMT
- Summary: Traps schmaps! Sheesh!
-
-
- In the October 4, 1991 edition of the Easy Bay (San Francisco) _Express_,
- Cecil's column addresses a follow-up question on the issue of copyright
- traps on commercial maps. A fellow writes about a fictional town named
- Westdale which appeared on th 1982 edition of Rand McNally's Road Atlas
- map of metropolitan Chicago (1982). It was gone in the 1986 edition.
-
- Cecil contacted Rand McNally and they claimed that it was a mistake which
- occurred when a developer submitted a plan for such a community which was
- approved but never constructed. Cecil notes that it seems a little fishy
- since the area was unincorporated, but was built up decades ago. On the
- general subject of copyright traps, a Rand McNally spokesman said, "Why
- would we put in copyright traps and then not tell anybody they were there?"
- Which does seem a reasonable question.
-
- The writer refers to an book, _How to Lie with Maps_ by Mark Monmonier
- which indicates that these errors seem to crop up fairly frequently.
- In it, Monmonier also notes the two prank towns in a map of Michigan
- (also noted here on AFU) where a Wolverine fan put in the nonexistent
- towns of "Goblu" and "Beatosu" on the section showing the neighboring
- parts of Ohio.
-
- Does anyone have access to Cecil's September 6 column on map copyright
- traps? From the nature of this column, it seems to say that these traps
- are bunk.
-
- ObUL: Cecil has a newsfeed and is a lurker on AFU.
-
-
- Terry "Well, it *could* be true...ah, you know the drill" Chan
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- From dog.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!ucsd!pacbell.com!mips!apple!amdahl!JUTS!tjc50 Thu Nov 21 13:31:52 PST 1991
- Article 28353 of alt.folklore.urban:
- Path: dog.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!ucsd!pacbell.com!mips!apple!amdahl!JUTS!tjc50
- >From: tjc50@ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
- Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
- Subject: Re: Map trap UL in LA Times
- Message-ID: <54SL02N904xU01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>
- Date: 18 Nov 91 18:25:40 GMT
- References: <1991Nov16.032323.8657@cco.caltech.edu>
- Reply-To: tjc50@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
- Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
- Lines: 28
-
- In article <1991Nov16.032323.8657@cco.caltech.edu> nyet@cco.caltech.edu (n liu) writes:
- >"... Thomas Bros. map guides contain some fictitious streets so that the
- >company can prove a copyright infringement against anyone illegally reproducing
- >its work. To insure that drivers are not confused, the mythical avenues are
- >generally shown on the outskirts of a neighborhood, run only a block, and are
- >indicated with broken lines (as though under construction). Thomas Bros. calls
- >them 'map traps.'"
- > - Metro Section "Only in L.A." miscelLAny
- >
- The "map trap" thingee really shouldn't be regarded as an urban legend. It's
- fact. There are strong reasons for such tactics, to prove copyright
- infringement. Infringement requires two elements: 1) Copying, and 2),
- Improper Appropriation. The Copying fork is usually very tough to prove
- without circumstantial evidence, because there's rarely a witness to the
- act of copying. Generally it can be shown by the combination of the allegedly
- infringing work's similarity (called "probative similarity") to the original
- work, coupled with a show of access to the original work. If the degree of
- probative similarity is extremely high, the access requirement can be
- discarded. The reproduction of errors or deliberately inserted false
- information is very helpful in showing a conclusively high probative similarity
- to assume copying. This technique has been used successfully in many
- copyright infringement cases. I don't have my Copyright text handy, but if
- anyone's interested, I'd be happy to look up a few cases and provide
- authoritative cites so we can lay this one to rest.
- --
- The above is my thoughts, not my employer's; Terry Carroll 408/992-2152
- The above is not legal advice; tjc50@amail.amdahl.com (preferred)
- All models over 18 years of age. tjc50@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
-
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- From dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!ames!decwrl!netcomsv!mojo Tue Dec 10 07:21:36 PST 1991
- Article 29620 of alt.folklore.urban:
- Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
- Path: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!ames!decwrl!netcomsv!mojo
- >From: mojo@netcom.COM (Morris Jones)
- Subject: the FAQ - Mapmakers copyright traps
- Message-ID: <1991Dec10.011048.19807mojo@netcom.COM>
- Date: Tue, 10 Dec 91 01:10:48 GMT
- Organization: Caere Corp.
- Reply-To: mojo@caere.com
-
- "Fb.Mapmakers intentionally place copyright traps in maps."
-
- Unfortunately I can't speak for mapmakers in general, but ....
-
- For two years I was employed at Etak, a small company in Menlo Park
- that makes navigation systems for cars and trucks and such. One of
- their major products is high quality digital maps. As a result they
- employed a number of people from the mapping industry and the census
- bureau and such.
-
- Etak's digital maps did in fact have copyright traps. I know of one
- employee whose driveway was included in the map as "<employee's name>
- Lane," and it was done specifically as a copyright trap.
-
- This could well be a case of the self-fulfilling urban legend. Those I
- worked with said it was a common practice in the mapping industry.
-
- --
- Morris "Mojo" Jones, Campbell, CA
- mojo@caere.com
- AA4KB @ N6LDL.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA
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